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intro.psych (Psyco 105) Discussion: Group 2 Discussion Group: The Human Intellect: Sites to Visit: Emotional I.Q.
By Connie Varnhagen (Admin) on Wednesday, September 2, 1998 - 02:15 pm:
Test your emotional I.Q.
Hmm....I got 30 out of 48...I think that's not bad....I never really thought about my E.Q (Didn't really think one existed). The advice they gave me was that I scored pretty well, but I
I don't want to say what I got but again I got no real advice, no real way to improve it just that I should try. Like Daki I am very suspicious about EQ. We know when we should use our emotions and when we shouldn't, but each situation is different. Saying "well when your pet dies you should act this way" is ridiculus. Your reaction depends on how long you had your pet, what kind it is and generally how you react to any animal dying, even if its not your pet. The other problem I had with this questionare was a couple of the questions seemed to be lacking in clarity, like the "or" question. does it take into consideration that doing a little fuming might be better than doing a little bottling up or vice versa. I don't know, is it just me?
Daki and Angela, Your comments and analogies indicate you've done some thinking on the nature of intelligence. Not as clear cut as one might think at first blush. You bring up the very valid question of context. How much does context affect your responses? Another issue is how much does the culture of the test developer affect the questions they ask? Would individuals from different cultures achieve highly discrepant scores? You don't have to answer these questions, just food for thought. Good comments.
The culture of someone would greatly affect how they would score on a test. For example a person from a hunting culture probally would score well on a spacial ability test. Also culture would also effect the test for example Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray's "The Bell Curve" reflects an underlying racism that they feel. The tested Asian people who were from high income levels, same with most of the white people, but the black people grew up in lower class enviorment. They used it to say "black people are stupid". Not to mention that the study was highly funded by the Heritage group in the US, which is associated with many arian nation organizations.
I didn't realize that our summaries were supposed to be done by 2!! I just thought it was supposed to be done sometime on monday, thats what the syllabus says. Can you make this clear for the next class.
oops forgot one thing:
Wonderful! I found this summary really interesting. You really put on your thinking caps and generated some insightful, critical questions about how intelligence has been perceived in the past (I loved the Stephen Hawking thing). I think you have also captured the limitations of the use of IQ tests. This is a really good example of critical thinking. Some of your statements could've used some elaboration (e.g.,"The Bell Curve" almost proves it, by the testing groups that were used). However, it is still a super job!
What is intelligence? Is it possible that intelligence could be more than just academic potential? How does this type of intelligence fit with Howard Gardner's multiple intelligence theory?
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By Daki on Friday, September 18, 1998 - 12:18 am:
"could use a little fine tuning." I'm kind of cautious about the existance of E.Q since its so variable and very hard to control or measure from one person to another. In fact, I think that emotions such as self confidence or ego play alot more important role in this type of test than it did in the lifestyle questionnaire. The same can be said about I.Q. ALthough it should theoretically be constant over one's lifetime, I don't think it would apply in reality. The reason behind this is that, if that were true, then it would mean that no one gains any knowledge or learns to increase one's intelligence or understanding of something. And what is intelligence anyways? If I can memorize how to spell all the words in the dictionary, but am unable to make a a cohesive understandable statement out of them, does that mean I'm intelligent or dumb? Its all relative so to speak. A person who can shoot a gun very skillfully by utilizing air flow, humidity in the air, distance to target, and so on may be "intelligent" in the army, but a guy who can predict and counter moves in a game of chess or Risk may be less intelligent in the army, but more "intelligent" as a general leading a battle (and vise versa for the marksman).
btw, Rubina, if you could email me or use the discussion group to tell us how your doing and what your situation is (my email is dk2@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) that would be great.
P.S hope your grandma is doin ok
Daki
By Angela on Saturday, September 19, 1998 - 11:09 pm:
By Patricia on Sunday, September 20, 1998 - 08:13 pm:
By Angela on Monday, September 21, 1998 - 09:36 pm:
Context would also likely reflect in your responses. If you are having a bad day and you haven't slept well you won't do as well as if you
slept eight hours and also eaten properly.
By Angela on Monday, September 21, 1998 - 10:34 pm:
Well here is the summary:
It appears that both Daki and I feel that emotional intelligence, is not something that can easily be measured, or even if it exsists. Context plays an important role in how you react to something (like a pet dying). Your upbrinnging probaly also play a large role emotional reactions. This also plays into culture as well. Also the writer of the quastionare may also have specifisc feelings about what is an indication of emotional quotient. Does this mean that they're correct? These issues also aply to the measuring of Intelligence. Just because Galton felt that reaction time was the key to intelligence doesn't mean he was right. We know that many things can effect intelligence. Socioeconomic standing is a big part of it. "The Bell Curve" almost proves it, by the testing groups that were used. Also the difficulty of defining intelligence is reflected in the poblem of testing it. Is it the ability to learn? Well the school grades should be a way to test it, but doesn't work and study habits play into that as well. Also some say that IQ is consitant in your life time, but then why do people score higher after attending university? So that can't be it. Reaction time? Oh,well I guess Stephen Hawking is mentally retarded. Language? So someone who's first language is not english is stupid. What about the language the tester uses in their questions. If you don't quite understand the question are you not intelligent. If the writer is an english major, that has an overwhelming vocabulary and uses it, wouldn't that be difficult fo someone in (for example) engineering, who takes so little english courses. Throughout the history of intelligence tests there have been many writers with agendas. There have been tests designed specifically for the first eugenics programs, also "The Bell Curve" shows that you can manipulate tests and their results to prove whatever you want.
In general we all have to be leary of these sorts of tests because we're not sure what they are really testing or what the questioner is going to do with it.
By Angela on Monday, September 21, 1998 - 10:39 pm:
This type of intelligence would cover Gardner's 6th and 7th intelligences. Interpersonal, dealling with others, and Intrapersonal, understanding yourself.
By Patricia on Tuesday, September 22, 1998 - 01:08 pm:
Grade = 3